'Dragon Ball Super: Broly' Confirms Goku's 'Minus' Origin is Canon
This obviously can't be Broly because he's the same age as Goku and is still alive . .. Bardock movie is directly Cannon since it shows the Frieza/Goku fight. 'Dragon Ball Super: Broly' Confirms Goku's 'Minus' Origin is Canon which saw his father Bardock and mother Gine send Goku/Kakarot from other characters that will shape him into this canon version we'll meet in the film. Goku has died a couple of times and can instantly transmit himself anywhere. November 20, Dragon Ball Super, DBS: Broly Full Spoiler Summary .. Bardock hasn't meet Goku because canonically if you go to hell you lose.
No broken bones, damaged pride, just plane and simple. Vegeta said crossing his arms. We make you come back with us. But I wouldn't recommend option 2. This pissed Vegeta right off. He was the strongest Saiyan alive, and his father was supposed to be dead. And you are planning on forcing us how? The thing that struck Vegeta the most was the fact that neither of them looked a day older then how they looked when he was only a kid.
Vegeta stood up proudly as though looking down at his father.
'Dragon Ball Super: Broly' Confirms Goku's 'Minus' Origin is Canon
He was the strongest and didn't take orders from his dad any more. I don't care what you need us for we're not going and that's final. No matter we can break you of that. Vegeta stepped back then pushed a button on his watch and said. We could easily take the two of you down, but I don't feel like getting dirty right now.
Oh well, don't matter much now she's as dead as our old plaint, long gone. Telling me what to do! I could feel 4 Saiyan's power levels.
Is there some kind of fight?
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The more Saiyan blood we have the better. Kakorott you take your old man and I'll take mine! But if crushing you is what I need to make you learn, then fine. Take your best shot! Vegeta said with a laugh. Vegeta fell hard to the ground holding his stomach in pain; he was completely winded and unable to get back up.
He called you his son Vegeta said looking back down at his son, who was still holding his gut in pain.
In order for the story to progress it has to introduce characters that aren't original to the movie, plot wise. Tarble and the villains of "Yo! Son Goku and his Friends return! Same with the new movie "Battle of god's" which is supposedly canon. So how is it that the Kai's and Vegeta know about him and we've never known of him?
At least not to me, you believe Bardock went back in time and I don't, that idea is too farfetched for me to roll with. The only way anything outside the canon storyline is validated is if Akira says so himself, which is why Battle of Gods is canon because he said so. Brolly is "a Legendary Super Saiyan. Not Bardock I agree with the guy who said about time travel and Bardock.
I have been trying to tell people that. Everyone forgets that time travel in DBZ creates seperate timelines. If time travel was the way people are believing about Bardock being the orginal, then it would create a ton of plot holes and paradoxes.
Heck, the Cell saga, Majin Buu saga, GT If you accept it as part of the timeline would have probably never have taken place.
If time travel did not create seperate time lines, then if Trucks travels back in time to give Goku the medicine and he lived, then Goku would still be alive and they could have possibly won against the andriods.
If they were defeated, then Trucks would not have traveled back in time to give Goku the medicine in the first place. This is a huge paradox. I think we should say the true saiyan of legend is the one from the original saiyan home world who could only maintain his power in the transformed state, but we could give it to Broly also.
The orginal super saiyan from the original saiyan home world, Broly, or both. Seperate legends Bardock is the original super saiyan. Broly is a just a super saiyan with a rare condition that makes him stronger. But assuming episode of bardock isn't canon but I'm not sure, the canon original super saiyan is unknown. I don't really care if canon wise bardock isn't really the original super saiyan though because the thought of bardock being the first super saiyan is so much cooler-- Ssj3gogeta96 talk Also, Freeza was very close to the Saiyans, so he probably heard the legend of the Super Saiyan from them, and he thought that the Saiyans are becoming too powerful, they might become Super Saiyans in the near future and could disturb his empire so he annihilated them all.
The Super Saiyan of the legend is the Original Super Saiyan that appeared on the original Saiyan homeworld a thousand years prior. The Legendary Super Saiyan is Broly, that had a genetic mutation that made him too powerful. They simply 'made up' this story so they could explain how Freeza knew about the Super Saiyan, but I still prefer my theory. It would blow his mind and the fact that it was Goku's father. Oh my god it would destroy him he would lose his mind.
Ps It makes sense that Goku would be so strong he is the son of the original super saiyan and it helps Goku has had so many great fights and losses and gotten stronger and know in the new movie he will be a god. The pieces are coming together it all makes sense.
LOL, Bardock is not the original. So for those talking about Bardock's time travel saying that it would have created a pardox need to think well maybe Bardock's movies all happen before. Bardock went back in time and that is the future we see Goku grow up in timelines Alright so if bardock really could time travel and he did create another time line.
Or even bardock himself might have found a way to control time travel. And perhaps the moretime he traveled it made his original power weaken but his SS power stayed constant. Making it where his power was only noticeable while he was transformed. Therefore the legend could have sprung from bardock himself.
But yes I think there are 3 legendary SS but I see a 4th. If he becomes a god then what's to stop him messing with the time lines The True Legendary Super Saiyan Ok, Episode of Bardock, love it or hate it, is part of the DB Universe, and the whole idea is to show where the "Legend" came from. When Bardock got the powers from the alien, he could see the future, and that is the only explaination for him beng warped through time when Frieza was destroying them all.
He lands on Planet Plant, and what Now, after the proper motivation, Bardock ascends and the "Legend" of the Super Saiyan is created. Now, after that, Bardock agrees to leave the planet to ensure that the Plantians don't have to deal with Saiyans.
He finds a remote planet and reunites with the Saiyans. He couldn't stop the Saiyans, due to the time limit He tries as a SSJ, but there are to many and he ultimately is pushed to the next fom. He becomes the LSSJ and begins destroying everything. After seeing the moon, he transforms into a Golden Great Ape, and ends up destroying the planet. The Saiyans migrate to Planet Plant, due to the fact that Bardock had told stories of the planet he saved.
The Plantians had already been conquered and exstinguished by the Tuffles. The Tuffles decide to use their brains against the Saiyans, and actually use them as "slaves". The Saiyans revolt under the rule of King Vegeta, and start a war which ends with the Tuffle genocide and the renaming of Planet Plant to Planet Vegeta.
He can do so, since he is the son of Bardock who had the abilities, due to the alien who gave him powers. He ascended further than his father, since he attained the SSJ4. Broly was born with a power level of 10, That was Bardocks power level when he faced Frieza.
Broly refers to the fact that they appear, LSSJ's, every 1, or 3, years. Broly never got to experiment with the form since Paragus controlled him up until he finally did meet Goku. At that point, when the device breaks, he is unpredictable.
Broly finally has his own time to experiment with the form. He would then have destroyed the Planet. However, Goku and the Z fighters stopped him, remember he had only been out of Paragus's control for a few minutes. Proving the it is not just power, but brains are required to. That is how I believe the Legends of the Saiyans came about. Vegeta would also be another candidate, since he also attained the SSJ form.
Vegeta states that Broly is the Super Saiyan of Legend, well yes, that form is the uncontrollable power that brought about the planet's destruction, he transformed into the Golden Great Ape, which just sealed the deal.
He couldn't regain control, so the Planet was destroyed. The Saiyans remained evil, and eventually Frieza acted as the ultimate punishment. I will say, that this is just my opinion, and what I think would make sense. There is the possibility that: Making him the beginning of the Legend of the Super Saiyan. There fore, the original Saiyan to ascend beyond a SSJ. Broly having the incredible power boost abilities. He is stronger than a SSJ2, that is impressive, by it's own.
The constant energy increase, also makes it a "Legendary" transformation. Goku could also be the LSSJ. That means that All the legends, could just be legends until Goku made history.
I however, like my first interpration, but there is no way to actually confirm anything. All we have is an episoce with a statement, and just a picture in Vegeta's mind, a non-canon episode showing someone we all watched die become a SSJ, and a movie with an advanced SSJ form, that doesn't even chronologically fit into the series. With that, we can not say if each legend is different, or if it all refers to the same person.
I like the idea of explaining Goku's ability to go SSJ through heritage, since he was born a low class Saiyan. Again, that story is just my opinion, but I think it is neat. Let me know what you think?? Goku was conceived before Bardock received the gift, sorry bruh.
Actually that does make sense and Bardock could've had pure hearted Saiyans around. To say that there were none is a bad assumption.
However the fact the Goku was born before Bardock got his power just means that Goku wasn't able to go ssj by heredity but by his own work. Bardock would be in a completely different timeline that has no effect on the main DBZ timeline. There is a chance that he could be the orginal in the timeline that he was sent to, but NOT in the timeline that Bardock was originally from.
This would follow the same time travel rules as the Andriod and Cell sagas. This is the way time travel works in DBZ. In fact, I think that time traveling creating new timelines would be how time travel would take place in real life if we ever figured out how to do it. I love that this is how Toriyama made time travel in DBZ because it prevents paradoxes.
I didn't even think of this haha, but very good point. However,I believe the time travel performed by Bardock was the result of magic and power. Trunks tiime travel was the result of a man-made machine. So, there is the possibility that alternate timelines weren't created, and that was just the natural chain of events. Kind of like Back to the Future. The movie Deadzone ties directly into the series after the Frieza Saga.
I can buy that Bardock could be the Legend SSJ Frieza fears because that would make Goku's abilility to get super strong, stupid quick hereditary. Also, i believe that the legendary super saiyan was somebody else, or Broly.
My money is on Broly, since when Vegeta saw him transformed, he just shat himself, and confirmed that he was the Legendary Super Saiyan of the tale. I mean, Broly looks more omnipotent and is way more powerfull than any normal Super Saiyan good god, he clobbered Goku so hard, that Goku had no choice but use the energy from his friends to actually stand a chance, and he only wounded him While in the series, they have shown that the Legendary Super Saiyan was a Golden Oozaru.
Or was a really hairy man turned into a Super Saiyan, i don't know, lol. Which makes Bardock's transformation about years later. Broly was born at the same time as Goku, and was only legendary in the fact that he was born at power level 10, The clone idea does not fit since Paragus states that Broly is his son. Bardock is able to become SSJ due to his immense anger, the same way Goku first transforms when Krillin is killed by Frieza along with his other friends and son being badly injured by him as well.
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The true LSSJ is still unkown to everyone. The fact that he is seen as an oozaru could mean that while he was in oozaru form he was introduced to Blutz waves giving him the power to transform to a golden state. This makes sense that he destroys himself due to the fact that he could not regain control and ultimately annihilated himself. Blutz waves are what Vegeta uses to first become SSJ4 btw that was me on the lastest post.